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Asher Hurowitz

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CFOP on the 3x3x3 Cube
« on: March 26, 2018, 05:36:56 pm »
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Originally I used the "beginner's" method for the 3x3x3 cube, and I averaged around forty five seconds, but I have been experimenting with various speed methods to get my times down. After some dawdling around Petrus, Heise and Roux for a few years, I am finally biting the bullet and currently learning the most popular method by far, CFOP, with it's whopping ~120 algorithms for the last layer alone. I am still sticking with intuitive F2L Pairs, although they are horribly inefficient at the moment (I still need time to figure out new tricks), and am learning the last few 2 Look PLLs and OLLs before I learn 1 Look PLL, then algorithmic F2L (which I ought to learn sooner) and then finally the daunting 52 1 Look OLLs! Golly!

This is a side project I'm working on, which is in no way at the center of my current attention, so it will take a while. I'll post updates on my progress, and if anyone is embarking on this quest as well, feel free to talk about it here!

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Asher
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Re: CFOP on the 3x3x3 Cube
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2018, 09:14:18 pm »
Greetings!

Originally I used the "beginner's" method for the 3x3x3 cube, and I averaged around forty five seconds, but I have been experimenting with various speed methods to get my times down. After some dawdling around Petrus, Heise and Roux for a few years, I am finally biting the bullet and currently learning the most popular method by far, CFOP, with it's whopping ~120 algorithms for the last layer alone. I am still sticking with intuitive F2L Pairs, although they are horribly inefficient at the moment (I still need time to figure out new tricks), and am learning the last few 2 Look PLLs and OLLs before I learn 1 Look PLL, then algorithmic F2L (which I ought to learn sooner) and then finally the daunting 52 1 Look OLLs! Golly!

This is a side project I'm working on, which is in no way at the center of my current attention, so it will take a while. I'll post updates on my progress, and if anyone is embarking on this quest as well, feel free to talk about it here!

Thanks,
Asher

My personal best is 25 seconds, which I was never able to repeat. My average is 35 seconds, but I do a weird method of my own undertaking. I solve top and bottom simultaneously. Then the last edges are a snap. I have been wanting to learn CFOP but the alg list is considerable and the look-ahead requires lots of practice. Maybe we can "team learn" it?
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Re: CFOP on the 3x3x3 Cube
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2018, 06:41:27 am »
My personal best is 25 seconds, which I was never able to repeat. My average is 35 seconds, but I do a weird method of my own undertaking. I solve top and bottom simultaneously. Then the last edges are a snap.

I am extremely curious as to how your method works, as a method constructor with one currently in development, if you would care to explain your methodology that would be awesome!

I have been wanting to learn CFOP but the alg list is considerable and the look-ahead requires lots of practice. Maybe we can "team learn" it?

Yes! Totally!  ;D

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My Youtube Channel on Chess Variants
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb-lm6a8XZo0eqAhfR4QWOg

My Lecture at Yale University, aged 13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smDO2Dpx5tg

My Youtube Channel on Rubik's Cube
Search"Polyhedral Paradise"
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Re: CFOP on the 3x3x3 Cube
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2018, 09:35:29 am »

I am extremely curious as to how your method works, as a method constructor with one currently in development, if you would care to explain your methodology that would be awesome!


I guess what I should do is make a few videos of my solves, maybe a dozen, so that I can explain it better. It is difficult to explain an intuitive process deductively, which is essentially what I would be attempting. I first solved the 3x3x3 in 1981, about a year before "books" came out, or at least those that I was aware of at the time. It wasn't until a few years later, when the 4x4x4 came out, that I changed my 3x3x3 method. I could sight-solve one side without making a move on the 3x3x3 cube, and I still can do this. With no more than "3 glances" as progress is being made, I can sight-solve top and bottom sides. This will be the most difficult part to explain because it's not really an "alg list" that I use. The remainder is easy to explain, because that is an "alg list" I have for the remaining edges.
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